Plato, Gorgias, section 454e

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[454e]

Socrates
But yet those who have learnt have been persuaded, as well as those who have believed.

Gorgias
That is so.

Socrates
Then would you have us assume two forms of persuasion—one providing belief without knowledge, and the other sure knowledge?

Gorgias
Certainly.

Socrates
Now which kind of persuasion is it that rhetoric creates in law courts or any public meeting on matters of right and wrong? The kind from which we get belief without knowledge, or that from which we get knowledge?

Gorgias
Obviously, I presume, Socrates, that from which we get belief.

Plato. Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vol. 3 translated by W.R.M. Lamb. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1967.

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